25. OPEN MEETING SF TALKS BEGIN

AUGUST 1965

After years of work the club ran our second Worldcon, chaired this time by Ella Parker.

DECEMBER 1965

THE SCIENCE FICTION CLUB OF LONDON held its Annual General Meeting at Courage House, Surbiton, on 12th December when Ethel Lindsay was elected Chairman. Ian Peters is the new Treasurer and Keith Otter Secretary. The Club agreed to sponsor a series of open meetings, the first of which has since been held, on Sunday 9th January in the Dunbar House Hall, West Kilburn. Some 25 people turned up to hear guest speaker John Brunner on "The Fiction in Science Fiction," a talk which was immediately snapped up by Michael Moorcock for New Worlds.

- SKYRACK #86 (February 1966, ed. Ron Bennett)

JANUARY 1966

The Science Fiction Club of London (S.F.CoL) in an attempt to boost membership and at the same time contribute something to London fandom in general, has started, as an experiment, a series of monthly open meetings consisting of a talk followed by a discussion, refreshments being provided. We have planned three for a start but these can be extended according to degree of success. This has only been possible because of Ella Parker's particular situation. She now lives in one of the multi-storey "matchbox" flats which are replacing the dreary rows of crumbling 19th century terraced houses in most London suburbs. While the flats themselves tend to make me feel slightly claustrophobic (I am 5'-11 ½" on the rare occasions I stand up straight) yet the extra amenities laid on are really tremendous e.g. central heating, waste disposal etc (good old G.L.C.!) On the ground level is a hall which can be hired for weddings, parties etc. at a nominal rent and this is just ideal for our purpose. We put the first meeting on free since we have a little bit in the bank due to the fact that, much to our surprise we got back in full the money we lent to finance Loncon II. (This is of great importance to me since I am treasurer, which happens to be the official post requiring least work which is why I am it and also, tho' I myself find difficulty in adding two and two, my wife who looks after the family finances has a keen arithmetical mind which solves my annual accountancy problems.)

As an attraction to start with, we invited Brunner to give a talk on any subject of his choice. He chose to speak on "The Fiction in S-F." It was, I trust, a measure of the apathy of London fandom rather than the value of Brunner that drew an audience of 25, including the S.F.CoL. members. Those who heard Brunner's speech at the Loncon will know what to expect. For me, it was the highlight of the official Con. programme. The depth of thought revealed, the very acute intellect, the beautifully modulated voice, and the excellent presentation combined to make that speech a real joy to me. And his talk for us was a repetition. After tracing the main influences on S-F. writing 1) the cliff-hanger approach of the U.S. mags, and 2) the British adventure novel in the Haggard style; he traced it down decade by decade. I fear he commented most unfavourably upon much of the so-called Golden Age of the '40s when genuinely original and lasting material, e.g. Heinlein, was all but submerged in a morass of trash. I was most gratified, to find that he found many of the so-called "classics" virtually unreadable (haven't you heard me on about that very thing?) and actually commented on Weinbaum's "Tweedle" thus:

"If this was held up as a great advance in characterisation then it could only have been because of the poverty of the rest." (I am not quoting verbatim.)

He pointed out the differences in story technique between short story and novel, quoting some really hoary and comical examples. His obvious immense knowledge of his chosen profession - writing, in case you don't know - was really exciting (I really enjoy listening to or watching an expert in anything, from physicist to flunkey). Another point he brought out was another one which I have been hammering for year, namely responsible criticism of a sufficiently high standard.

After mentioning that fanzines were supposed to provide this, at least in part, he took as an example ZENITH SPECULATION #11 (Jan. '66), specifically Joe Patrizio's article on Ballard. This is billed by Pete Weston, who should have known better, as:

"a serious attempt to get behind the facade of critical adulation, to give us a calm and considered appraisal of Ballard's real worth [emphasis mine] as a S-F, writer while preferring not to take sides in the current pro- and anti-Ballard dispute."

Unfortunately this is not so. Joe from the start obviously detests Ballard's writing and far from being a balanced essay in criticism is solely a diatribe, albeit he has made every effort to back his statements with quotes, etc, a very, commendable procedure, no more nor less than we would expect of Joe Patrizio. Unfortunately, he allows his emotions, and a determination to find fault to mar his judgement.

In a few choice phrases and with devastating logic did Brunner completely demolish this fannish attempt at literary criticism.

Anyway, it was a most interesting afternoon and I believe Moorcock, who turned up belatedly, bought the speech there and then so it may appear in New Worlds (I might even buy that issue).

Coming so closely after my own plea in OMPA for better Standards, I found it most gratifying to find someone of Brunner's standing thinking along the same lines. During the discussion which followed (a rather desultory one, I fear, since it had pretty well all been said) one point which I feel fairly important was raised, viz that of emotion. This is not something one can easily measure all the logic in the world has no bearing on it. A good author will by his choice of phrase etc., etc., create an emotional bond between the reader and the narrative, and according to the effectiveness of this bond will the success or failure of the story be determined for that particular reader. Thus some people of a particular emotional make-up will be quite incapable of appreciating certain types of story. There is nothing wrong in this, it is just life. We are all different, but this emotional aspect of reading is usually - mistakenly in my opinion - overlooked, then we end up with two sides, one saying "Well I didn't" and the other "never the 'twain shall meet."

- Ian Peters, HAGGIS #7 (March 1966, ed. Peters)

The next meeting is at 4pm, Sunday, 13th February, when Frank Arnold will speak on "Characterisation in SF," and the following meeting will be on 13th March, also at 4pm. A charge of 2/6d will be requested to help with the cost of rent and refreshments. Suggestions for future meetings will be heartily welcomed, as of course will be any would-be attendees. I'm asked to mention that fans who intend going along to either of the two forthcoming meetings would help greatly if they could notify Ethel Lindsay, Courage House, 6 Langley Avenue, Surbiton, Surrey, though of course this should not preclude the attendance of anyone who finds himself at a loose end at the last moment; just take the Bakerloo, Watford Line tube to Queen's Park Station, turn right, cross the bridge and William Dunbar House, Albert Road, is some three and a half inches along on your left. The hall is on the ground floor.

- SKYRACK #86 (February 1966, ed. Ron Bennett)

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